All words are pegs to hang ideas on! August 30, 2012Posted by shonaliganguli in Re-Imagine: India-UK Cultural Relations in the 21st Century.
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Contribution by Sneha Rao, participant at the Re-Imagine Edinburgh Youth Summit held in August.
It’s always those few words which have a more lasting impact than the events themselves!
I have tried to recollect my experiences of Edinburgh with the help of those words that fascinated and inspired me…
“India in some ways is responsible for creation of UK as a whole”
Story of East India Company and its escapades which led to merging of Scotland and UK was fascinating. It helped us understand how Scottish identity was separate from UK identity and how the collaboration between India and Scotland is older than interactions between India and Britain.
“Power of community is something that I am proud of”
This was a statement which made me introspect a lot. We come to think of unity in diversity a lot…But when it comes to local community –that unity starts fading away. That is probably the primary reason we see clean houses but unclean localities -as that feeling of ownership among locals is just not there. This also leads to poor quality of citizenship and involvement in issues related to local governance. I think this root cause needs to be looked in a little more depth before I can formulate my mind on specific ways to improve community cohesiveness.
“Power of naivety of youth could be leveraged in bringing out elephants in the room”
I think it was a beautiful way to put forth the power of youth. Before coming to the conference I was sceptical – what do we as youths bring to the table which more knowledgeable and experienced people can’t bring? It’s the naivety which makes us audacious enough to question the un-ask able questions. And the brilliant motley of crowd which was present did ask some thought provoking questions – which wouldn’t have been asked otherwise.
“How much access is too much? – I would definitely want to make the museum accessible but not the objects huggable”
It poses larger questions about access and individuality of cultures. Trade is different from culture in a way – that it has no soul to it. You could have very open ties in trade and it will always be beneficial for both the economies. But does the culture loose its soul if you make it very accessible? From Edinburgh, I was travelling to London and in London I saw a man playing bagpipers in the busy oxford street – the music couldn’t look more out of place, especially after hearing the local version of it in Scotland. I have to admit it must have made few people inquisitive about Scottish culture after hearing them – but does the music looses it soul in the process of tweaking it to suit the tastes and sensibilities of everyone?
“You could roam in museums all day – but this street is what represents Scottish culture”
One can’t box a culture and put it in a building. Attempts made to do so are probably with the intent of documenting them – so that the knowledge about them is not lost. Yes one can go to museums to see that culture that once was- but you have to really see the streets to understand the culture that is. Hence in context of Indo – UK relationships one must ensure the bottom- up approach where people at grassroots in both countries interact with each other. At the end of the day this is what would create lasting understanding of each other’s cultures.
“Definition of rules between 2 countries differ”
On the subject of student visas we had a very enlightening conversation. We realised while Indian students view student visas as an opportunity to begin working in that country after work. People in UK take the definition of rules very seriously. For them student visa ends when the semester ends. After which if someone stays further it’s breaking of rules. It was amazing to see the live examples of this on my trip to London – I was so surprised to see queues even in escalators in underground and the seriousness with which queues are taken. India on the other hand is built on chaos and it is almost a necessity given that the country accommodates 1.2 billion people- we have to have a flexible perception of rules!
“Cost of living can’t be a benchmark; it’s the cost of dignified living which should be benchmarked”
The context in which this line was said was itself a remarkable conversation. But writing few lines on this subject won’t let me appreciate the depth of this conversation.
“UK is remarkable in how it used Olympics to create a lasting legacy in the field of sports”
India had a similar opportunity during commonwealth games but sadly we couldn’t leverage that to create a lasting impact on the way sports is treated in our country. As against UK which targeted various areas like sports infrastructure, sports culture in young adults etc. Also, the values of inclusion it stood for were reflected where they ensured women representation from every contingent- which makes Olympics stand for much greater things than sports.
“Some histories are sad and affect our current sensibilities – Should we reinvent the history to make it more amenable or should it be presented as it is”
The concepts of liberty, fraternity and equality emerged with the French revolution. Before that the concept of looking down upon women, certain races was not frowned upon. There were colonies whose riches were used to fund the deficits of colonizers. Such history when viewed with current lenses – leads to bitterness towards perpetrators. Logically speaking, retribution for historic events doesn’t make sense. But practically speaking, such animosity is hard to part with. Rewriting history might not be the most ethical thing to do, but perspective building on historic events needs to rational. We must ensure we impart objectivity and rationality to impressionable minds of young kids so that they themselves can see the events of history in a more objective light.
“We can sit and talk about Indo-UK relations all day but would common people be interested in it”
To make common man interested in the future of 2 countries , they can’t be convinced by mere dialogues, it has to be an incentive much more tangible than that. Hence a bottom up approach where we ensure continuous interactions between people of both nations- via sports exchanges, student exchanges at university and school level, teacher exchanges and many other cultural exchanges would always work well to create that spark of interest about the partner nation.
One of the lasting and most inspiring lines with which I would end my reflections of the conference
“Yes the “how you say it” is important but it’s the actions I would rather be remembered by”
Which goes on to say – that all of us were greatly influenced by various perceptions and various interpretations of interesting themes that emerged during the conference but now is the time to reflect how we can take it to the next level and contribute at an individual level!
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Reflections August 29, 2012Posted by shonaliganguli in Re-Imagine: India-UK Cultural Relations in the 21st Century.
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Contributor: Rachit Sai Barak, participant at the Re-Imagine Edinburgh Youth Summit
A month and a half ago when I was informed that I was selected for Re-Imagine Edinburgh Youth Summit, I was elated that I would be visiting the city at the time of Fringe and Edinburgh International Book Festival. Yes, I had thoughts about my contribution in the summit and if it was possible for a group of 12 young people to define a vision for UK-India Cultural Relationship in just 4 days. But, mostly, I was excited about attending the festival. Over the course of the summit my expectations completely changed.
On the first day when I met the other 11 participants (Well, I met 2 of them on my way to Edinburgh), I was a little bit skeptical, because of the sheer fact that we came from 12 different backgrounds. Of Course we had similar interest and some of them were part of changemakers, but we all had different agendas or so to say issues that we were supporting. We were told that over the next three days we would try and envision UK-India Relationship and highlight the areas of possible partnership. On Day 4 we had to present these outcomes to various stakeholders.
By the end of day 1 my expectations had changed, I started absorbing a lot more about our shared cultural history. In the next four days I learnt a lot of things both consciously and sub-consciously.
One of the first exercises we did was to visually depict what we were proud about our country. A question that I hadn’t answered before, call it arrogance, ignorance or insecurity. I am proud of certain individuals and emerging sub-cultures but I am not a patriot. The summit actually motivated me to see beyond my experience and discover things that I love about my nation.
On the first day, we visited National Museum of Scotland. One of the most interestingly curated museums I have ever been to. The idea was not to segregate it by period/era but by themes. The museum is not just easy to navigate through, but it also creates an image that you can remember. They have used personal stories to highlight history, one that I particularly remember is that of Jean Jenkins (1922-1990), a renowned broadcaster and museum curator whose passion was capturing and sharing music traditions from across the world. The gallery allows you to learn more about Jenkins’ travels, listen to recordings, and even mix your own global music track using our World Music Composer.
In India we don’t have any academic course on art curation, it’s not a mainstream subject that we consider important. But clearly it’s something that needs attention. Museums are accessible but are not interesting for us as students, because what we are taught in our history books is remotely close to our day-to-day lives. One of the major points of discussions was that India and the UK share a diverse cultural history and the fact that British ruled India hardly holds any relevance in current times. Our education system doesn’t highlight how India’s culture has influenced the UK and vice-versa.
Museums play a vital role in providing information about the same. We all felt that it was important for us to strengthen documentation and curation in Indian museums as well as promote exchange of exhibitions between the two countries. In the past, curators from the both the countries have collaborated; but I believe that it is important, particularly in India to engage young people in that process to foster interest in cultural relationship.
As part of our presentation, me and another participant from India, Arpita Das decided to make a short video about what people from both the countries think about UK-India Cultural relationship, we went around in Edinburgh asking people what were they proud about their country, what they liked about the other country and if they thought UK-India cultural relationship was important to them.
While most of them were deeply interested in knowing about the other country and felt that it was important for the governments to invest in cultural initiatives, there were bunch of citizens from both the countries who weren’t really interested in cultural relationship. One of them even felt that we knew enough about each other’s culture and it might be irrelevant to invest further.
Going out and interviewing people was a reality check for us. We might feel passionately about investing in cultural relations but does it hold any importance for people who live in smaller cities and rural areas, who have bigger struggles and concerns? How can we become more curious about each other’s cultures? Currently, we don’t have answers to these questions and it might be impossible to find an absolute answer. Therefore, it’s important for us to start from somewhere. As one of the participants, Heather Kitt mentioned that we shouldn’t take UK and India’s cultural relationship for granted and that we should invest in innovative programmmes that creates an open environment for people from India and the UK to communicate and learn for each other. These are the values that we feel are important to create a quality relationship between the two countries.
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Learnings and Reflections August 28, 2012Posted by shonaliganguli in General, Re-Imagine: India-UK Cultural Relations in the 21st Century.
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Contributor: Ayush Surana, participant at the Edinburgh Youth Summit Re-Imagine: India-UK Cultural Relations in the 21st Century
There is certain beauty about the very air of the city of Edinburgh.
When you walk the beautiful cobbled streets, on a clear sunny day with
the castle looming up in the distance, you feel very much a part of
the extraordinary culture of this place.
The first day , talking to Dr. Crispin Bates I realized that there is
a fascinating perspective to the history of the East India Company ,
the freedom struggle in India and its implications in the formation of
the UK ! It was an eye-opener for me to understand how our education
system needs to be revamped so that we incorporate all aspects and
perspectives of our history. History should be objective and not a
The very same day we visited the Scottish Museum, and talked in depth
about the art of curation. The most interesting aspect for me was
pointed out by Dan. Talking about accessibility to an object in a
museum and using it as a metaphor to raise the question about how much
exposure to a culture is too much, and when does this exposure start
becoming a threat to the soul of the culture?
Talking in a broader perspective, in an increasingly connected world,
this question raises a few more valid ones, about the sort of exposure
we are getting as individuals and as a society.
Lunch that day, was cold rolls, something which I definitely didn’t
take a fancy to! But I will always fondly remember the times spent in
making dinner together, where we had a delicious fusion of Indian and
British cuisine. A simple platform called cuisine bringing nations
together! The night of Biryani and the Banofee Pies.
Our visit to National gallery presented another fresh insight into the
Scottish culture and heritage. The fact that an entire section was
dedicated to portraits on Pakistani families settled in Scotland spoke
volumes of the kind of cultural and racial tolerance observed in
Scotland and I found myself respecting this Nation even more!
Discussions over the next days highlighted the need for bringing in a
more holistic approach on educational exchange, need for visa reforms
and greater cultural and sports ties between the two nations.
Being a firm realist, I believe that time takes away a lot of our
memories, and sadly also a lot of our leanings. What we always do have
however are moments. Moments which we cherish and always carry with
Every day being a part of a close knit group of young dynamic minds
from two different parts of the world, discussing issues that really
matter to the world and brainstorming together, going on the
‘scavenger hunt’ and sharing some great laughs in the process, to
watch in delight at the wonderful performances happening all over the
beautiful city, and finally on the last day congratulating each other
on pulling off a great presentation which we built together as a team.
Looking back, I am filled with warmth at sharing such great moments
with a bunch of wonderful people. I am grateful to be a part of such a
project and I believe these moments shall always play a pivotal role
to drive me to always consciously think of the India-UK relationship
and how I can contribute towards reimagining our future. As my dear
friend Owen rightly said at the end of our presentation
“Sometimes you cannot do everything but you can do something”
Cheers to a great new future.
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Rethinking Re-Imagine: The Edinburgh Youth Summit August 27, 2012Posted by shonaliganguli in Re-Imagine: India-UK Cultural Relations in the 21st Century.
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Contributor: Maherunesa Khandaker, participant at the Edinburgh Youth Summit Re-Imagine: India-UK Cultural Relations in the 21st Century
Before the ReImagine Edinburgh Youth Summit, I admittedly was not entirely sure about the project’s aims. After listening to the keynote address on the India-UK relationship given by speakers from the British Council and Edinburgh University however, I started to comprehend why we do need to think about the relationship, my understanding of which grew over the time of the summit.
With a history spanning over 400 years, the relationship between India and the UK is full of intricacies; there have been many victories and failings along their journey together. The relationship has seen many shifts of power, from being partners in trade to the deeply troubled Colonial relationship; from the long awaited independence to the eventual emergence of India as a power, with Britain slowly becoming a supplement. One cannot deny that the UK-India relationship has seen periods of reinvention and rethinking.
Now the question remains – where is their shared journey taking them through the 21st Century? When rethinking the future, one must celebrate what has been achieved. This is what the British Council’s ReImagine Project is all about – it’s looking at the relationship between the UK and India in the past, and where it is in the present, to inform where it is going in the future. The project involves research, publications and debates, with input from 12 participants at the Edinburgh Youth Summit providing the youth perspective to the project, after all it is our generation that will be living the future relationship between the UK and India.
Looking at the present relationship, it cannot be doubted that so much of India is ingrained in British culture, and so much of the UK’s culture is intertwined with Indian culture – from food (after all chicken tikka is the UK’s national dish), to language (hands up if you put shampoo in your hair this morning) or to sport (cricket anyone?) and so many other countless areas of life. The relationship has produced some crucial elements of who we are in both cultures.
Nonetheless there remains potential for both cultures to continue benefitting from a relationship – perhaps the most straightforward reasons for a stronger collaboration in an increasingly globalized world include that it is vital to have strong relationships between countries for economic growth and working jointly towards advances in science and technology. Though perhaps one of the most overlooked and important reasons to consider UK-India cultural relations and their future is because there are plenty of people from an Indian heritage living in the UK and vice versa. Although we have a wonderfully diverse and multicultural society, the truth is that prejudices, apathy and hate do still exist in some parts of society and therefore must be challenged. Once these obstacles are fully broken down, the relationship between India and the UK will bring countless more benefits to all aspects of society and culture.
The ideal relationship would be a mutually beneficial one, essentially a diverse, informed, integrated, open society that cooperates for the overall betterment of both countries’ societies.
We explored a variety of different routes into achieving the vision we aspire to – the key routes including history, education and soft power. I’ll dedicate a section to each of these areas in which I will combine a summary of our discussions with some of my own points of view.
ReImagine Education: “Education, education, education changes mindsets”
(For our world café discussions on education, click here)
Whilst speaking at the Edinburgh Book Festival, A.C. Grayling highlighted that education is about relationships with other people. In a way, the more we learn, the more we want to learn, the more you learn, the more you think – this sums up why education can play a key role in rethinking India-UK relations – after all to fight prejudice and nurture openness we must be direct in the way we teach India-UK relations, how else can people rethink India-UK cultural relations if they are taught nothing about it, if they have little to no awareness of how the two cultures interweave and share a long history together?
There is no doubt that education changes mindsets, and indeed mindsets do need changing. For instance, the amount of people that asked me whereabouts in India I come from the moment they met me troubled me, then in response to informing them I’m from the UK, the usual response is “No really where do you come from?” I was born here, I’ve lived here my entire life and want to grow old here – how can someone think its acceptable to tell me directly I’m “really from” somewhere else? This is a mild example, but it shows that preconceptions do exist in people’s mindsets. Preconceptions and prejudices are enemies to a successful relationship. By reminding each other about either the UK or India’s influence and importance in the other’s culture in an honest and unbiased way we can celebrate how far relationship has travelled, our diversity and accept openness.
Language is also an effective way of understanding another culture. In the UK, few places teach the Sanskrit languages. Though English is one of many Indian official languages, surely we can have greater access and understanding of the great Indian philosophers if we could speak some Hindi for instance.
The importance of study exchange programmes was also highlighted – whilst many Indian students come to the UK to study, very few British students will travel to India to study, and this is something we felt needs to be explored.
It is important that cultural education starts with the youngest in society, but it cannot end with the youth either. The importance of celebrating our shared culture and history needs to be reinforced throughout education, and needs to reach the greater society.
Reimagine history: “You have to look back to look forward”
(For our world café discussions on history, click here)
The problem with the way history is taught in both countries, and most likely all over the world, is that it is biased – essentially the educator will teach their version of events (or at take the stance they have been told to teach). The Indian delegates at the summit said there is too much focus on Gandhi for instance, though there were many other vital figures that played a strong part in India’s independence and that there are political motives underlying the current curriculum. In the UK, it is important to have an education about the UK’s relationship with India, yes it may be uncomfortable, but after all that history was made by the actions of different people of a different time, there needs to be open discussion of it to it so there is a mutual respect and understanding between cultures. For instance, few school children in the UK learn about the soldiers of the Commonwealth nations who died fighting for the Crown, and this is something that must be highlighted.
Reimagine Soft power: “To watch us dance is to hear our heart speak”
(For our world café discussions on culture and sport, click here)
One cannot deny the importance of soft power when it comes to working on relations – this describes a nation’s power to attract people through a variety of mediums including through culture, political values and foreign policy for example.
Soft power primarily through traditional cultural mediums, is something we considered very carefully after our visits to the Scottish National Museums and to the Edinburgh Book Festival. Museums indeed provide a distilled snapshot into the culture of a country, and we felt UK-India cultural relations could indeed benefit if there was an exchange of museum exhibitions from the UK to India to which the wider public should have access, arguably it is difficult to accurately portray culture in a confined space. The director of the Edinburgh Book Festival suggested that, “each book, like a small mirror, reflects a small facet of the world” and we felt that British school children should be encouraged to read the literature that Indian schoolchildren read, and vice versa. The director also highlighted that most Indian literature that is widely available and popular in the UK tends to be written by authors with privileged backgrounds, so suggested encouraging a greater diversity of Indian authors should be introduced to the wider market. Being in Edinburgh during the Edinburgh Festivals demonstrated the importance of drama, music and literature festivals in offering the opportunity to express often unspoken issues.
It was suggested there should be an exchange of museum exhibitions from the UK to India – to which school children and teachers, as well as the wider public should be provided.
Sporting culture is a key area that was discussed at the summit as now, more than ever, is the perfect time for sport to be used as a medium to place the focus on UK-India relationships. Between now and the next Olympic games, the Commonwealth Games will be coming to Glasgow and it is in these games that India have traditionally excelled. The group discussed the possibility of “sports exchange” programmes, similar to study exchange programmes, as well as increasing access to opportunities to participate in culture specific sport, for instance Bollywood dancing in the UK, and perhaps Gaelic football in India.
Whilst we discussed many innovative ways of rethinking and strengthening the relationship between India and the UK, one cannot deny that there are major obstacles to be faced. Some of our biggest challenges include the practical issue of funding and the more complex problem of apathy.
Though there are obstacles, even where we can’t face them head on, there’s nothing to stop us trying to, or moving around them and finding alternatives. For instance, when it comes to Study Exchange programmes, in our connected world there should be nothing stopping us from participating in study programmes using the Internet. When tackling apathy however, there is a need for a paradigm shift, with education (particularly of history) playing a key part in this. Additionally, this may be where soft culture can come into play, by highlighting the aspects of each other’s culture in every day life and increasing opportunities to access sport, art or food in each other’s every day culture, perhaps we can start turning the wheels of appreciation for culture in society. For our discussions on apathy, do have a readhere for more in depth details.
This is a mere summary (albeit, still a long one) of what we touched upon during the Edinburgh Youth Summit 2012, however whilst reading this you might have come up with your own thoughts, which you’re invited to share and inform the ReImagine project. So come join the dialogue at http://reimagineyouth.posterous.com/ or by emailing firstname.lastname@example.org.
Something to remember from the summit –
“We start with ourselves, we move together, learn from each other and form a dialogue”